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 Legalists
    Summary:
Legalism, the practice of adhering to and promoting strict standards that bring more glory to adherents
    of a standard than to God, is very prevalent in today's religions. Unfortunately, Baptists are a major culprit of
    legalistic practices as thousands of so-called Bible believing churches create non-Biblical standards as a means
    of establishing an outward appearance of righteousness. Regretfully, legalists are often ravening wolves on the
    inside.

  1) The wine referred to in the Bible is actually non-alcoholic grape juice.
  2) Alcohol vilifies itself.
  3) Smoking spiritually defiles the body.
  4) Standards glorify God.

1) The wine mentioned in the Bible was real wine. Drunkenness is absolutely wrong, but a moderate use of alcohol is Biblical.
 
I Timothy 5:23
"...use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities."

Psalm 104:15
"And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart."

If the wine used in the Bible was simply grape juice, then why would the Bible warn us about drinking too much wine?

I Peter 4:3 "For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries"

Proverbs 23:29-30 "Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine."

Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

Also, if the wine in the Bible was simply grape juice then how was it that Noah, Lot, and countless others in the Bible became drunk?

Jesus Christ turned water into wine, and spoke of actual wine in Luke chapter five when he explained what happens when wine ferments in old bottles. Also in this passage, Jesus comments that old wine is better than new wine (not exactly a verse your average fundamental Baptist legalist likes to read from the pulpit.)

Luke 5:37 "And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better."

In the book of Isaiah, the prophet speaks of watered-down wine as a bad thing.

Isaiah 1:22 "Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:"

The Bible is quite clear, drunkenness is wrong and if you live the lifestyle of a drunk it is obvious that you are not saved.

I Corinthians 6:10 "Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Also, Romans 14 warns that you can offend people by what you eat and drink. Christians should be mindful of this. However, Christians should also realize that it is also offensive to lie and say that real wine was not drunk in the Bible and that to let a drop of alcohol touch your lips is sin. A legalistic view of wine leads people to doubt whether they can believe the Bible word-for-word--teenagers especially struggle with this hypocrisy.
 
2) Neither alcohol or firearms are immoral, sinful, villainous objects. Both can be abused and used for wrong by sinful individuals, but neither item vilifies itself.
 
Romans 14:14 "I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

 
3) Sin spiritually defiles the body--not tobacco, and caffeinated beverages. 
 
Mark 7:15 "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man."

If you are a Christian, your body IS the temple of the Holy Ghost. However, the correct interpretation of this often misused passage below is that fornication and sexual sins destroy the body--not a glass of wine with dinner.

I Corinthians 6:18-19 "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"

 
4) The satisfying of your pride via man-made standards does not honor God.
 
Colossians 2:20-23 "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

Matthew 15:8
"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days"

Below is a tract written by Pastor Fred Fowler Sr. (for a printable version click here)

Legalism and Modern Day Pharisees

"Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:7-9.

Legalism is a manmade system of do’s and don’ts that appeals to the flesh because it is based on our carnal desires to be prideful and man-centered and not God-centered. Tobacco and alcohol prohibition are usually at the center of this deceptive attack from the Devil. Also, denial of certain clothing, music or anything which professed Christians deem wrong or against their manmade doctrines promote asceticism.

"Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances. (Touch not; taste not; handle not’ Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh. Colossians 2:20-23.

To be sure there are dangers in worldly or immoderate use of anything. Alcohol is vilified especially.

Matthew Henry comments on this subject, "God doth allow a sober use of wine." Was he deceived also? Christ commented on this topic too. "And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better." Luke 5:36-39. The bottles burst because they were fermenting. Then Christ said new wine should be put in new skins to preserve it. He also indicates that the old is better. Do you really want to rebuke our Saviour, when you see him, for teaching this? "For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners! But wisdom is justified of all her children." Luke 7:33-35. Why did the Pharisees accuse Christ of being a winebibber if he was drinking only grape juice?

The "strain at a gnat and swallow a camel" Pharisees remind me of today’s fundamentalists that allow divorce and remarriage of church members but have a conniption fit when they light up a cigarette. But divorce is another topic (click here to read our "divorce and remarriage" tract). A good verse for Christian tobacco haters is Mark 7:15, "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man."

Ephesians 5:18 commands sobriety. "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit:" Amen, I hate drunkenness. At our church we dismiss members that are guilty of this and other sins. "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? Do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." I Corinthians 5:11-13. But when is says "excess" to describe this condition, that means it was real alcohol and too much was drunk.

This ruffles the feathers of some legalists but don’t you want the truth? That this is a fact is backed up by Acts 2:11-15. People accused the saints that were speaking in other tongues (get our tract on this subject also) of being full of wine. But Peter said they were not drunk seeing it was the 3rd hour of the day. (Nine o’clock our time.) Why didn’t Peter go into a Baptist soul winning speech like, "We are not drunk because the wine we drink is 99% grape juice."

Another puzzler for pumped up people who like to satisfy the flesh is I Timothy 3:8, ""Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;". Now I suppose Paul, by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, was warning our fine deacons that too much grape juice would give them a tummy ache. But how about his warning them not to get drunk proving they drank real wine? Christians should allow the Bible to alter their beliefs, not their beliefs to alter the Bible. When you step outside the box and smell the fresh air of independent thought, it is a sense of freedom you will not forget. When you don’t have to worry about the one who butters your bread getting angry, it is also wonderful.

"I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean." Romans 14:14. Fundamentalists cannot understand this verse. I couldn’t until I got out of the loop and started to ask God, " what is truth"?